Glam bands that could have been big

or you can run a spoofer that will basicly mask your IP from other users. Maybe mask is the wrong term, it will give them a bogus IP that doesn't correspond to your 'network' or machine. not that i would do anything like that, i'm just saying.

if you have a network set up at home you can also set up a routing table to a virtual ISP internal to your network which would fool users trying to do a tracert or whois into thinking your ISP is something like YOUCANTCATCHME.NET or whatever you want to name the virtual ISP on your network. their is a tier system set up for the internet for ISPs. Tier 1 being the highest. There are a select few tier 1 ISPs, obviously being the larger companies. You might also hear the term backbone. for how this works and how it could confuse a users follow this. (we will use Adelphia as our tier 1) Aldelphia owns the backbone, major connectivity, for parts of the northeastern us. if i signed up for internet access with scrantontoday.com then my ISP would be scrantontoday.com. Scrantontoday.com, being a smaller tier 2 ISP, uses Adelphia tier 1 backbone to access the internet. If a user in LA did a tracert on me they would hop back across the US making it into Adelphia backbone and then eventually scrantontoday.com. If I, for arguments sake, have a virtual ISP configured on my network at home called vampire.net, when a user does a tracert on me they would bounce around until they got into Adelphia's backbone down to me and the to an ISP called vampire.net. (even though vampire.net is not my real ISP, Adelphia is but the user would not know this.

looking something like this:
Tracing route to creeper [1.1.1.5]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms blahblahblah.whatever.com [1.1.1.2]
2 13 ms 44 ms 48 ms blahblahblah.adelphia.net [1.1.1.3]
3 23 ms 35 ms 13 ms 1.1.1.4
4 51 ms 37 ms 37 ms creeper.vampire.net [1.1.1.5]

But enough work talk...............

now, TKO, i loved loved loved In Your Face. Amazing album but when i finally tracked down Let It Roll and Below The Belt i was disappointed to say the least. Still, In Your Face is a classic. good call.

does anyone remember a band from LA called Witch? The Hex Is On is another classic, love that one too. Again, tracked down their next release and was let down. Wish I never heard it.

I've never been able to track down that Suicide Squad EP. I love Brad's voice, thought the War Babies cd was amazing as well.

hey sandy, did you ever run across this:
http://pnwbands.com/brotherhoodband.html

singer, same name, same area, think the date makes it too early to be 'the' brad though.

Creeper,

Sinsel, is still one of my all time favorite singers. I love his singing particularly in "Without You" and "Give Into the night"

LOL...I found that same link when I was looking for any new info on Sinsel. My friend in Seattle who knows Brad sent that link to him and he pissed himself laughing. It was a band that lived up the street from him and he walked into their rehearsal space and the next thing he knew, he was in the bands.

I don't have a turntable so if you're interested I found a place that has the Suicide Squad EP. I'm positive that this is it as it says MFN "Music For Nations"

http://www.gemm.com/ddc/search.pl?&d...+TRACK+MINI+LP

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now, TKO, i loved loved loved In Your Face. Amazing album but when i finally tracked down Let It Roll and Below The Belt i was disappointed to say the least. Still, In Your Face is a classic. good call.

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<font size="4" face="Arial">Hey Creeper here is some info on Suicide Squad I found.

http://www.tartareandesire.com/bands/suicidesquad.html

that is the first time i have ever even seen a TKO shirt. Too bad you don't still have it. and thanks for the heads up on the suicide squad lp, it's now mine. =)

i'll transfer it to cd when i get it if you want a copy.

Working Girl and Without You are my favs off of In Your Face. Did you ever get the In Your Face & Up Your Ass release that Metal Meyhem put out? Is it any good? I know they were having legal issues when they were getting ready to release it and I Wanna Fight is not included on the re-released version. interesting.

Almost forgot...thanks for the tech talk. I do understand that's possible to trace things to a degree, and that people can mask their real IP#s to a degree. I basically was remarking on certain people who think they can know all from IP#s and then use those things to start shit.

I don't want to rehash the past that way, except to say I'm still a bit angry over it.

Carry on with music.

TKO...I met Floyd Rose years ago, when he was working on his tremelo bar.

Saw Adam Brenner solo years later. He had on a Fiorucci shirt and jammed with Heaven as well.Heaven...the sort of AC/DC spinoff.

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that is the first time i have ever even seen a TKO shirt. Too bad you don't still have it. and thanks for the heads up on the suicide squad lp, it's now mine. =)

i'll transfer it to cd when i get it if you want a copy.

Working Girl and Without You are my favs off of In Your Face. Did you ever get the In Your Face & Up Your Ass release that Metal Meyhem put out? Is it any good? I know they were having legal issues when they were getting ready to release it and I Wanna Fight is not included on the re-released version. interesting.

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<font size="4" face="Arial">I got the shirt from a buddy of mine who got invited to a VIP showcase show they were doing for CBS Records.

No I didn't bother getting MM Release as the transfer is really bad. See below for the reason why. I contacted the guy at MM last year and he said the proper re-issue was delayed for some reason.

Here's an interview with Sinsel I found a while back explaining the MM release fiasco for In your Face.

I would love a copy of SS if you end up getting it!
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Seminal Seattle metal act TKO see their three albums, Let It Roll ('79), In Your Face ('84) and Below The Belt ('86) reissued through Metal Mayhem (www.metalmayhem.com) shortly. If you recall, Metal Mayhem had already released In Your Face & Up Your Ass last year, but it seems that was a bootleg which the label thought was legit, having been told by Adam Bomb that he had the rights to the tapes. Not so, says TKO singer and leader Brad Sinsel.

"What kind of started all this is that there was a bootleg that came out that was basically illegally attached to Metal Mayhem. Of course I was wandering around the Internet and I found it and I said 'What the f**k is this?' and 'Who the hell do you think you are?' and 'My attorney is going to kill you' and we started talking about well, what else can we do? So I said you know what, let's just bury that one and move on. They claimed that that first issue of In Your Face, they didn't know it was a bootleg. Of course Adam Bomb had waltzed in there and declared that he had full rights to do it, so they got snookered by his spiel. So rather than kill Ryan at Metal Mayhem, I thought, well, it's not his fault, I've been snookered before (laughs)."

So a working relationship was established, and all three are going to be done up right. "We're ass-backwards releasing the albums," begins Sinsel. "We're starting with Below The Belt, which is the last one, which is out now. We had to rebake the tapes for Below The Belt because after all those years the oxide needs to be refluffed. It's a pretty scary process. I think you put it in an oven at 400 degrees for 45 seconds or something so it's kind of touchy surgery. And then following that, we're actually going to re-release Let It Roll with a live simulcast, which will come out more toward the winter, with In Your Face in the fall."

Brad noted that with respect to bonus tracks, Below The Belt "has this whacked-out version of Mott The Hoople's 'One Of The Boys' which was supposed to be on there in the first place, but didn't make it. The live simulcast is for Let It Roll, but we haven't decided on the bonus tracks for In Your Face. The live simulcast was done when we snagged the deal with MCA. It's that first record deal when you'll do anything to get out there. We had signed with Mike Flicker who had done Heart. It was a production deal so they brought MCA in to do a simulcast for a radio station here. So it's a good recording of that material in front of a live audience and in fact, I like it better than the album. The more I look back at the album the more nostalgic I get because it's just littered with happy textures and glistening acoustics and pretty silly background vocals. We were so young. We said we would do whatever they say and we'll change it when we get out there and play live, which we obviously did (laughs)."

Creeper, check out the shirt I'm wearing.

I have no clue what happened to that prized T.

http://www3.telus.net/public/a5a2499...s/mosestko.jpg

For example TEEZE in the States... Should never change their name into ROUGHHOUSE... Their selftitled album 1985 is among the best glam metal ever released. In UK let's say that so underrated band called SLUTT which released a selftitled album in 1988. Those two bands should have been big, very big!!!

Sleazy - It's funny you should mention Roughhouse, I was just listening to them this morning. I like the first half of that cd then it sort of fizzles out for me. I haven't heard the Teeze stuff, I know they were selling it on their website, not sure if they still are, I'll have to check it out.